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#33336 - 09/27/07 02:22 PM
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Is Zero Waste the new benchmark of environmentalism?
Zero electricity, zero use of manufactured goods, zero use of treated drinking water. Ditto for transportation, waste elimination, communication... Heck, you created waste by making that post.
Not criticizing you, of course. People need to think about the impact of their actions. My point - EVERY human action creates waste that the planet has to deal with. The problem is when 250 million Americans think they're not part of the problem. Or that there is no problem.
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#33337 - 09/27/07 02:57 PM
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My point is to get people to think... "do more good"... if every person eliminated 1% of their waste, the impact would be enormous!
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#33338 - 09/27/07 03:15 PM
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Why single out Americans, Mike?
Have you been to Shanghai, Beijing, and Guangzhou? How about Seoul, or Kuala Lumpur? How about Athens? How about South America?
Measure the emissions that come out of the back of a standard bus in any of those locations and compare it to the emissions that come out of a bus in the US? Count the number of cars on a highway outside of seoul that have one passenger compared to those outside of New York?
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#33339 - 09/27/07 04:10 PM
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Well put, Strat. Not that Americans ought to be smug about it, but we all know things can be locally worse here and there. Some heretofore "Third World" nations are becoming somewhat more affluent, and affluence breeds waste. It is only in locales where relative affluence has been around for a while that people get second thoughts about easily affordable waste.
Can someone go 24 hours without producing waste? Ok, we exclude “human waste” here. To go that long without producing waste, for most of us, entails postponement of waste production to the following 24-hour period, thereby doubling waste for that day.
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#33340 - 09/27/07 04:59 PM
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Why single out Americans, Mike?
Cuz I figured there are more Americans reading this forum than Chinese.
You make excellent points though. Our (historically strong) economy has provided us the opportunity to reduce pollution in many ways that developing countries have not yet undertaken. Our per capita energy consumption still singles us out as global louts IMO, however.
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#33349 - 09/28/07 08:00 AM
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I love the idea of reading about creating less waste from Dale Earnhart Jr.
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#33514 - 10/05/07 10:49 AM
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I don't...
Why is it people like to hear how to do things from celebrities? If Dale wrote a book about driving... Yeah, that would be good.
But I'd rather read about environmental issues if they were written by say... oh, maybe experts in the field?
What is the deal with the celebrity worship in this country?
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#33519 - 10/05/07 11:03 AM
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Where?... I can't find it anywhere on this site...
Why is everyone always so serious...?
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