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#36681 - 04/24/08 10:20 AM Ralph Stover accident
Architect
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Man I can't stand that place.
by the looks of it, He fell all the way down the trail to the stream.

abc news report video
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#36690 - 04/24/08 11:53 AM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: Architect]
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I hate it when reporters still can't get the basics correct:
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He was free climbing, which means he wasn't using ropes and other support.

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#36692 - 04/24/08 11:58 AM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: Architect]
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Its standard procedure for the rescue crews to set up a zip line and bring victims down the 300 talus slope and across the creek to the boy scout camp that has an access road instead of trying to lift them up and out. Most accidents there are not climbers, but people soloing / hiking around, drinking, or both.


Hope he is doing well.

Stover is where I learned to trad climb (um..I mean not fall and trust my gear on red shale….)

Edited by Smike (04/24/08 12:01 PM)
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#36701 - 04/24/08 01:14 PM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: Smike]
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While guiding on the practice face about 25 years ago, I looked over to a guy who was following, and struggling at the Neanderthal roof. He popped off and his bowline had come undone apparently from his attempts at the roof. He fell straight down onto his back. It took us most of the day to get him evac'd (obviously with the help of the fire/resuce dept.) in much the same way as this video.

Stover rock was slippery and "slimy" back then...and, I can only imagine what it's like now as I haven't been there since the late 80's. I too learned to lead there.
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#36717 - 04/24/08 04:54 PM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: AOR]
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tico used to say that "stover was like climbing on crayons"
i've never heard a better description
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#36719 - 04/24/08 04:59 PM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: schwortz]
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Gee, Stover was my first climbing experience, too, when I was at Rutgers. It was also where I got my first chance to assist on a rescue.
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#36721 - 04/24/08 06:03 PM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: schwortz]
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 Originally Posted By: schwortz
tico used to say that "stover was like climbing on crayons"
i've never heard a better description


The nail has been hit directly on the head.
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#36728 - 04/24/08 09:56 PM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: schwortz]
timh
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 Quote:
"stover was like climbing on crayons"


Stover isn't actually rock. It's semi-fossilized whale excreta.
And the erosion at the base is so bad that some routes have actually gotten longer.
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#36782 - 04/28/08 07:21 AM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: MarcC]
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"Climber injured in a fall." or "Kid sprains ankle while hiking around rocks" Which is the more interesting headline?

Remember, wether its a newspaper or TV news, they claim to be "reporting" the news but they are trying to sell advertising at the same time.

Money always comes first.
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#36831 - 04/30/08 10:54 AM Re: Ralph Stover accident [Re: Arms]
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Looks like a pretty shakey ride they're giving him there . . . Bet that felt good.
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